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Mon Jan 21, 2008, 4:19 AM
I'm bummed!

I was rendering a fairly complex fractal this afternoon and my laptop got real hot...and then DIED!  I let it cool down for a couple of hours and I still can't get it to turn back on.  Anyway, it may be a while before I am back on DA as regularly as I have been.  Until I can get another laptop, I'm stuck with possibly checking in a couple times a day instead of a few times and hour. I hate that.  I was rendering some images for a new script that I was going to post.  Now all the images and flames are locked in a hard drive that I can't access.  I passed on the "recipe" to CabinTom though, so perhaps he can release it in my absence.

UPDATE:After removing and re-installing things like the battery and hard drive, I was able to get my laptop to boot.  I can't seem to get much more than an internet browser to run though.  Things as "intense" as a hard drive backup seem to freeze up.  Maybe I'll try it from safe mode or from linux and see if it works any better.  I'm afraid to do any rendering until I can get the important data backed up.

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Kabuchan Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Daniel, get every bit of you images and files out of there. Rip them or put them on a thumb drive. Then reinstall Windows to see if a fresh install will take care of the problem. Are you running XP or Vista?
djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm on Vista. I was able to get my images and scripts copied to a small external drive, but even after a re-flashing of the bios and a restore of the OS (wiping out all my data), I am still having issues in that it won't burn clean backups to DVD, won't see the other computer on my network, won't add files to my MP3 player, and so forth. During the OS refresh and some hard drive diagnostics, the system rebooted. To top it off, my warranty expires on Thursday. :) HP is sending me a box though so that I can return it for repair. I'll just be out of a laptop for a week or so.
Kabuchan Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It sounds like they will take care of you. That's good ... :)
baba49 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh what rotten luck! I am sorry to hear about this misfortunate occurrence Daniel. I hope you can fix it without any loss of date, hair and nerves :hug:
GeaAusten Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2008  Professional General Artist
I'm afraid I killed two pcs by complex rendering of fractals, what I had to do was get everything on the old hard drive backed up on to a new hard drive , which I can access, and buy a gaming type pc, which seems to be the only kind which can cope with this sort of work.. odd really, you are totally brilliant, I haven't stopped using your fractal script, spider heart since I found it, good luck , best wishes
xero-sama Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
I agree with with *Arialgr. Laptops aren't rally designed for hardcore rendering and stuff. But, if its all you have, then go ahead and render those puppies! Sorry to hear you're having problems too :(
Arialgr Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have been known to build my flames on a laptop. But, I have an inexpensive desktop to do my rendering. They are built for the more intense processing and would make a good backup for you. The laptop is built for portability but not for intense work. Good luck with getting your stuff backed up.
Rozrr Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Very sorry Daniel, hope you get sorted soon. I keep my laptop tilted up on the edge of a book. I noticed it was getting a bit hot and the fan exit is underneath... I may have saved mine from a similar fate. It is nearly 5 years old now... Doing well.
purple-whirlpool Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2008
Oh no, what a bummer. That must have been one seriously complex flame to burn the laptop up! Hope you manage to access the hard drive.
phoenixkeyblack Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel your pain dude ... :cry:
MothersHeart Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry to hear of your bad news! :hug::hug::hug:
ShroomPills Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008   Digital Artist
I just HATE it when things like this happens! Jusy a couple of minutes ago, I was rendering a fractal and my computer crashed, one minute before finishing the render.

I've been waiting one hour for it to render and then it crashed with one minute left >.<

I'll have to render it tomorrow...

Anyways, I hope you can get your files *crosses fingers*
akkamaddi Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008
Laptops are not designed to run with the processor pegged at 100% for long periods of time. We have the same issues with distributed computing. The fans for many laptops only have a lifetime of 4-6 months running at full speed. When the fans die, components overheat. When components overheat, Bad Things (TM) happen.

Though it's a pain, if you run Apo on a laptop, you should look into a program that lets you specify how much of the processor your applications use, and restrict Apo to something like 25%~50%.

You can get USB adapters that will let you hook your laptop drive up to another PC. Hard drives are usually safe when components overheat, though any files being accessed may be corrupt. This will let you recover your data.

Good luck!
PatriciaRodelaArtist Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Daniel, I'm so sorry that your having trouble with your laptop. I hope you can get it up and running again!!!:please:
deadened-glow Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awww, that sucks alot.
Do you have a fan plate thingy that you could stick under when you get your new laptop?
I have one by Targus that seems to work well.
LadyLyonnesse Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008
Ouch! That hurts, Daniel. I hope you get sorted soon. I'll miss you.
1arcticfox Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear that Daniel!! Are you familiar with a device - it's called R-Driver II? I's a USB 2.0 to IDE Cable device that let's you hook up your hard drive from your computer to it, and then you plug it into a USB port on the back of a computer, and then the computer reads it like an external hard drive in Windows Explorer. You can then get all your files off, assuming your hard drive still works. I had an old desktop that froze before Windows started son jerked the hardrive from it and plugged it into this device.....and it worked like a charm and I was able to get all my files off.

He got it on E-bay for around $15, Also.......frozen gel paks work great under a laptop when doing intensive rendering. The more intense the mathmatical computation....the more heat the laptop generates! I bought a Targus cooling pad for my laptop, but it doesn't work as well as the gel packs! Good luck! :hug: :hug: :-)
phoenix75 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008
So sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope you can get things working again soon. Good luck. :heart:
Colliemom Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Try a new battery, sometimes the batteries burn up!
Apple had a huge recall of laptop batteries once.
Otherwise, you know how much empathy I have!!! :aww:
Yourmung Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Professional Photographer
Is some kind of sickness around fractals??? my bro's pc died a month ago for the same cause. Sorry about you pal, here we'll be waiting.
mistywisp Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008
I feel for you... the same happened to me two weeks ago. Hope you get sorted soon!
phoenixkeyblack Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel for you dude, really ... :cry:
thats bad news.
i had some bad luck this morning.
Half way through todays LTS in apochat, my computer restarted tehn i could not log into dA. I missed the end of it. :(
DoubleScoot Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Well that is too bad. I hope you can get a new laptop soon. I really enjoy your scripts.
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