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I'd heard of Linux before, and had even installed in on an old machine.  But when I booted into it, I ended up with a command prompt that wouldn't take any of my old DOS commands.  I gave up on it.  Recently though, I'd heard some good things about Ubuntu and decided to try it out.  Ultimately, I wondered if it would help with my fractal rendering by eliminating a lot of the bloat-ware in memory that is commonly called Windows.  I have to say that I was a pretty shocked at the outcome.

I downloaded a free copy of the latest version of Ubuntu and burned it on a CD.  When I booted to it, I was fairly surprised at how intuitive the graphic interface was.  At that point, I decided it was worth installing it on my laptop in a dual-boot mode so that I could choose to boot into Windows or Ubuntu.  After shrinking my primary partition and installing Ubuntu on the leftover space, I looked in the software repository and told it to install Wine (a program that allows you to run Windows applications), browsed to my Windows folder for Apophysis, and was pleasantly surprised again at the fact that it ran right away.  The initial launch time was a tad bit longer, but it ran like a charm.  The big test came when I loaded up a flame and told it to render.  In native Windows Vista, the most memory I could squeeze out of my 1GB of RAM for a render was 490MB.  Usually though, I have some other processes running and the figure is about 350MB.  When I loaded the same flame up in Apophysis running on Ubuntu though, I had 765MB free...and that is with a chat application and Gmail alert program running in my system tray as well.  

What this means is that when I render my fractals in a large resolution for sale on ShutterStock (submit.shutterstock.com/?ref=1…), I rarely have to resort to multiple strips.  This saves a tremendous amount of time.  I haven't actually run any speed tests, but I would not be surprised if the rendering time was faster as well.  

Anyway, the bottom line is that if you have a couple gig of free hard drive space and only a gig (or less) of RAM, you should probably check out Ubuntu.  It's free, and the  hour or two that it takes you to set it up could very well be recouped by the time savings in your first renders.  The whole process of downloading the Ubuntu CD, re-partitioning my hard drive, and installing Ubuntu and Wine only took about 45 minutes.  The total cost, including time, was 45 minutes.  Definitely fit my budget.

If anyone wants more detailed step-by-step instructions on what went into this, let me know.
D.

PS.  I just hit a milestone on ShutterStock (submit.shutterstock.com/?ref=1…).  In my first 21 days, I've sold over 200 images and am guaranteed a first check of at least $75.  I'm thrilled!  If you haven't checked out ShutterStock (submit.shutterstock.com/?ref=1…), you should.  It is free for artists/photographers to join, they'll take just about anything that is categorized properly and isn't noisy, and the earnings add up fairly quickly.  
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you have Vista, you can shrink your active partition in the drive manager (right-click on My Computer). When you install Linux, you can select this new drive area and it will partition it and format it as needed. I selected a manual install so that I could increase my swap area to 2gb and set up a separate partition for my user files (/usr).
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry. Comment got cut off. I was going to say that I've only been playing with this since last Wednesday, so someone that has more experience in Linux like some of the other commenters on this journal may recommend a different partition configuration.
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karma4ya Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
ehm i love linux and actually have a ubuntu box set up but wasnt aware that apophysis worked on it i have been waiting for :iconcmptrwhz: to finish the release of apophysis for linux :) but if i dont have to wait please tell me how :) i would worship the ground u walk on :) hehe
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Install Wine from the Software Repository, install Apophysis on the "c" drive that it sets up or browse to the Windows partition if you are dual-booting, and run the program. I was surprised at how simple it was.
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karma4ya Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Im not dual booting but if i need to i can install windows on the spare room on the drive but i was wanting to have it be a nix box :) but if it means i can use apophysis on it well :P or would it work with wine alone? im not familiar with wine
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
All I did was install Wine, browse to my Apophysis folder on my Windows partition, and it ran fine. If you don't have a Windows partition, I'm sure it would run just as well (and probably load faster) if you installed it directly from within Ubuntu. From what I can tell, any time you run a Windows application or Windows install program, Wine handles everything for you.
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karma4ya Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
sweet i will let you know how it works out ill try it tomorro :) Thank You for the wonderful Info and also YOUR SCRIPTS ROCK!! :)
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baba49 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow this sounds very interesting Daniel. You gave me food for thoughts. Thank you so much for sharing your discovery.
Would you send me the link please of where you downloaded your Ubuntu? Perhaps if I feel very brave sometimes next week I try it. I didn't understand where you meant to find "Wine" and I also don't know how to set up the PC for dual boot but I guess I can google for that. I have a partition with 16 GB that I could use. When you render flames out of Linux on D drive can you still save flames to E drive?
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
kubuntu dot org ([link]) and ubuntu dot com ([link]) are probably the two more popular flavors. I started with the Gnome interface built into the default Ubuntu install, but am now using the KDE interface in the Kubuntu install. Both have a link to a software repository of thousands of additional applications. Just launch the package manager, search for "wine", and install it from there. It creates a "c" drive in your Linux partition that you can install to, and also allows you to run programs from your Windows partition if you browse over there and click on them (or add links/shortcuts to them to your desktop). Both also handle the dual booting for you. When you install them, they then give you an option when you boot to either boot into your new Linux partition or your Windows partition. I've sent you some partitioning tips in a note.
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baba49 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I finally managed to get ubuntu 7.4 installed and even got Wine but I can't get apophysis to work. I get the message that there is no device to open it :(
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Did you try to right-click on it and tell it to open in Wine? Some of the linux distributions I've played with seemed to require that.
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baba49 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It now works on double click but it takes so very very long that when I tried it first I gave up too soon. Now only export flame doesn't work because Apo doesn't find flam3.
I am really determined to get this to work after I have spent so much time on the set up :D
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It launches in about 30-45 seconds for me. Once it is launched though, it acts just as quickly as if I were running it on Windows.
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baba49 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was not as lucky as you with the Ubuntu experiment so far but I hope to have everything up and running again soon. I free some space on my harddisk now fixed the CD Rom that I can boot from DVD and install Ubuntu under DOS. Hopefully then everything will be faster. If not I'll give up :D
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Rozrr Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
I have just joined Shutterstock. Looks worth a go. Thanks Daniel.
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just sent you a note with some helpful tips. If anyone else is interested, let me know.
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BryanCDonaldson Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007
I'm a 17+ year Windows user and I was wondering...would it be worth my time to invest in a cheaper system just to tinker with Linux?

I wouldn't mind trying it out, but there are so many versions and there's so much more to learn...lots weighing in on that. But if I could get a rendering machine that's Linux based, what specs would you recommend?

I'm not looking to spend a grand or anything...but a few hundred, maybe.
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The Ubuntu CD that you download is bootable, so you can try it out without changing your current system at all. If you like it, you can easily shrink you Windows partition (it's in your Drive Manager settings) and install Ubuntu in the free space. When you boot then, you are given a menu option to boot into Ubuntu or into Windows. Works great. As far as specs for a second machine, I'm not sure what would work better for Linux over Windows. I think you'd still be better off with as much RAM and as fast a processor as possible, and I'd go for dual-core 64-bit processor. The 64-bit won't make your renders run faster (at least under Windows), but it will allow you to do other things without a render in the background slowing you down.
D.
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BryanCDonaldson Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007
Yeah, I run a monstrous machine at home. I'll have to get the specs, but it's a beast. I don't think I could duplicate it just for a side-PC.
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StitcherLadyxx Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My husband is the computer geek, I'm going to run this by him lol. Lots of backing up to do before we'd try this. Congratulations, Daniel, on your milestone at SS. :) :heart:
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just tell him that a free download of Ubuntu (of Kubuntu) is a lot cheaper than upgrading your memory. LOL
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StitcherLadyxx Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is it compatible with everything Windows is compatible with??
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've only tried a couple of programs. The only ones I've tried that didn't work were some that sat in the Windows system tray and monitored things. I think these rely too heavily on windows hooks or events. The regular applications ran though. I have heard that there is an extensive list on the Wine web site that lists applications that work, mostly work, or don't work when running under Linux.
D.
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Lovely-Demented Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007
I'm running nothing but Linux Mint 4.0 Daryna which is based on Ubuntu myself. Linux is soooo much nicer.
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haven't heard of Linux Mint 4.0 Daryna before. I'll have to check it out. I started out with Gnome in Ubuntu 7.10 last Thursday, then tried out KDE, but I'm all for checking out new stuff. :) Any benefits of Linux Mint 4.0 Daryna over the two flavors I've already played with?
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Lovely-Demented Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007
Linux Mint is a modified version of Ubuntu and I use the Gnome version. As for the benefits over regular Ubuntu the only thing I can remember from the one time I installed Ubuntu was that Mint had all my video card drivers and most proprietary codecs (mp3, dvd, etc.) pre-installed. I know I gave up on Ubuntu 6.10 because I couldn't get it to go to a 1280x1024 screen res, but Mint installed and did everything for me. I love it.
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll give it a shot. I'm downloading the KDE torrent now, but it is going to take 20+ hours. :(
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Lovely-Demented Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007
Ouch! Well, good luck! I really enjoy it and I believe =Hebejebelus is using Mint as well.
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djeaton3162 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is it worth it? How is it different from Gnome or KDE?
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Lovely-Demented Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007
Gnome & KDE aren't distributions, they are the kernel of the operating system like DOS or NT are for Windows. Linux Mint is just a version of Linux much like XP, Vista, and Server 2003 are versions of Windows. I prefer Linux Mint with Gnome, but I couldn't say why I like Gnome over KDE if someone asked me.
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